What will happen to this kid in the Corps who has a borderline IQ?

My friends 17 year old son is in the DEP. He is planning to go to Boot Camp in July, when he turns 18. He is in the special Ed program at school and will barely graduate. The problem is the kid is clueless. He can%26#039;t decipher what is appropriate vs. inappropriate. If someone in authority told him to go hump someone, he would seriously do it.





He has been wanting to join since he was in 3rd grade. He thinks by joining he will be able to eventually fly planes. He has good athletic ability and he can follow directions. He can take apart things and put just about anything back together (albeit with missing parts and put together all wrong, but the thing will work). He just has No common sense whatsoever.





His mom let him go down to talk with the recruiter thinking that the recruiter would send him away with a toy soldier set and that would be the end of it. But, no, they got him working out with a group of guys every week. We are worried for his safety as well as the safety of others.

What will happen to this kid in the Corps who has a borderline IQ?
Well hopefully the military will sort him out in basic/AIT. But if not they will see he will be a problem %26amp; let him go. But this just might be his thing. He may lack in other areas but this one thing could be what he is best at.
Reply:I%26#039;m thinking this really isn%26#039;t your place to say anything. Seems like you don%26#039;t like this kid and you aren%26#039;t a very good friend to your so-called friend to be trash talking their son in this manner. This young man had a dream to enlist in the military. He has achieved his goal. He would not be allowed to enlist at all if he could not pass the ASVAB with a minimum score. Trust me, LOTS of affluent teenagers from great schools with great families barely score a 10 on this test everyday in the recruiting office. This test is designed for an average high school graduate to pass. Also the ASVAB score itself is only made up of two sections of english and two sections of math. It is called the AFQT. It is that section of the exam that most young American teenagers fail due to our really crappy, union run, public school system. What I am trying to tell you is this kid isn%26#039;t as stupid as you want him to be. Lots of young people have little if any common sense. That is because they had lazy parents with poor parenting skills. Video games and day care cannot teach your children common sense. The military and especially the US Marine Corps takes young people and turns them into responsible young adults. Young people learn lots of life skills in boot camp, technical school and from their entire chain of command when they get to their first duty station. Marines and all military folks look out for their own. Thousands of young adults enlist every year who have crappy families they leave behind many never to be talked to again. For this young man%26#039;s sake I really hope you eat your words soon about what a worthless young man he is. It is people like you that do our young people the most harm. Instead of trash talking these young people why don%26#039;t you try mentoring him?


He will do more than just fine in the Marine Corps and I really look at you with disgust both as a friend and as an adult. How responsible were you at his age. Are you the CEO of a Fortune 500 company with all the common sense you had at 17 years of age? Doubt it. It is because of down thinking people like you that stong military people like us have to pick up the pieces of the kids you send us to turn into mature and honorable young people. Rethink your ways before you do it to another young person.
Reply:He might surprise both you and his mother/family and find something he likes, enjoys, does well at and is part of something that he is a part of without people thinking he can%26#039;t do it. He might also wash out of boot camp. If he passed the ASVAB he is not as %26quot;low IQ%26quot; as you seem to think; sometimes a person just needs to find a niche and do well in it to get ahead.
Reply:he has to pass his asvab scores and have a minimum score to even be eligible.. if someone in authority says jump, you are supposed to say %26quot;how high%26quot; the military loves people who are wiling to follow orders.. with all the mental problems he most likely wouldn%26#039;t make it thru basic training and from what you have said it would be amazing if he even passed the asvab test. Myself I had adhd, add and had a lot of coping problems growing up. But amazingly the NAVY beat all that out of me thru discipline and I came out a man. To fly a plane he would have to become an Officer. We had some fellow sailors in my squadron who weren%26#039;t the sharpest pencils in the box and they eitther ended up in a permanent assigment in laundry, or plopping mashed taters on peoples plates in the mess hall. If he meets the intelligent standards and makes it thru bootcamp maybe this is the best thing for him








also the asvab scores have nothing to do with an IQ. The asvab is not an IQ test.. I looked and the lowest score you can get and qaulify is a 31, but that doesn%26#039;t determine which type of job he can get , the AFQT scores are the ones that determine which jobs he can qualify for. I tried to get a list for you that says what jobs he can do with that asvab score at the possible lowest, but he can qualify from what I read for any MOS, but like i just said that all depends on the AFQT, and they combine different scores from different areas of knowledge to determine that. A person would think that if getting thru bootcamp and becoming a foot soldier you would only have to be willing to follow orders and have a trigger finger that works correctly. And yes there are plenty of people in the service willing to pick on someone who shows any sign of weakness menatly. Anyway you had a good question and I wil give it a star for being interesting
Reply:If he scored high enough on the ASVAB he is qualified. Maybe he isn%26#039;t as stupid as you think he is. If mothers had their way, their kids would never be allowed out of house without a pacifier.
Reply:probably will wash out during boot camp
Reply:They will become officers.
Reply:I wouldn%26#039;t worry too much. He as of right now is just a name on an enlistment roster. He still has to go through his military physical and that include a psych exam. If his mentality is not up to standards, they will give him a medical deferment.


But who knows, too many schools classify students as special education needs (it simply means that most teachers don%26#039;t want to spend time on students who need one on one help)!


He may be a lot smarter then you or his mother might think.





As far as following authority, that%26#039;s what the Marines want, they don%26#039;t want those who question, ignore, or can%26#039;t tolerate authority.





And even if he may be a little slow, the Marines always cover each others back and leave no one behind. His (if he graduates from boot camp) new found family will take care of him.
Reply:Don%26#039;t try to destroy a chance at a dream. He is doing better that most in school. He will graduate ...How many drop out of school? If he has pass the Armed Service Vocational Aptitude Battery and physical requirements, he should have no problems. I know of college grads that can not pass these tests. He will not fly with out a degree and flight school.


It is honorable to be concerned for a friend but you should be supportive. Back him and pray for the best. Put trust that if he doesn%26#039;t belong then it will not happen. But, if he does make it he will know that you were at his side walking with him rather than behind with a knife.
Reply:if he is truly %26quot;special%26quot;..he will probably wash out.
Reply:He doesn%26#039;t sound like a bad person. But if he%26#039;s really going to be a liability to himself and others in the military, he won%26#039;t graduate basic training.





I%26#039;d just be happy for him. If he wants to join the Marines and has passed all the tests and assessments to get accepted, he deserves the chance and it%26#039;s to be assumed that he can hack the training and lifestyle.
Reply:leave him be and let him continue and eventually join. The military needs people like that =Op. He will probably be a Gomer Pile, but that%26#039;s where he will shine... humoring everyone =Op. Even the military needs humor. Plus, in the service, it sounds like the military will be the only thing in this kids life that will keep him together.
Reply:I think he%26#039;ll be a fine Marine and fit right in in the Corps....He%26#039;ll look good too, best of any US Military Uniform available. He%26#039;ll fly alright...then the%26#039;ll make him jump or ....push him out. Oh, that%26#039;s Airborne...That%26#039;s the Army son.





They cannot afford to send anyone away these days thank%26#039;s to Angry Dick and Uncle George Dumbya Bush and their Republican Special Wars of Circumstance and Corporate Reward. (Republican SWCCR). His Mom ought to be ashamed of herself, and I surely hope the young man lives through her mistake. For his and her sake. May God Truly Bless Him.....I%26#039;d still salute him though...and they certainly need %26quot;humpers%26quot; in Dick %26amp; Bush%26#039;s Wars. He sounds just right for a Bush Cabinet Level Position too! Blind Patriotism/Loyalty is where it%26#039;s at in that Cabinet.
Reply:if he isn%26#039;t fit for the military he probably won%26#039;t stay in the military - he will be booted out or will decide for himself that it isnt for him



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